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Mormons Ban Guns: Where is it Actually Illegal to Carry in Church?

8/27/2019

 
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (the Mormons) amended language in its Handbook 2: Administering the Church to prohibit firearms in its churches. Leadership states this is because Texas recently amended its concealed carry law to loosen restrictions on firearms in churches after high-profile shootings and the 2017 mass shooting at a Sutherland Springs, Texas, Baptist church.
 
Before​:
​Churches are dedicated for the worship of God and as havens from the cares and concerns of the world. The carrying of lethal weapons, concealed or otherwise, within their walls is inappropriate except as required by officers of the law.
Now:
​Churches are dedicated for the worship of God and as havens from the cares and concerns of the world. With the exception of current law enforcement officers, the carrying of lethal weapons on church property, concealed or otherwise, is prohibited.
The timing of this change is particularly bizarre because Wyoming, which has 67,421 Mormons or 11.64% of the population, changed its laws in 2018 to allow concealed carry in churches with no reaction from the LDS church. Texas has dramatically more members, 357,625, but are only 1.26% of the total population. The only high profile firearm incident at an LDS church was the targeted murder of specific individual in Fallon, Nevada, in 2018.
 
While one might easily see how an openly carried firearm in a church could be distracting or disconcerting, a concealed firearm would not be. Instead, the LDS officials have succumbed to the same irrational logic that guns and rules that countless businesses, schools, and governments rely on. Signs and rules are not magical things that keep bad people from doing bad things. It doesn’t make sense and doesn’t have to.
 
Instead, loyal Mormons who will obey the strictures of the church will be disarmed and left at the mercy of potential madmen. Hope is a poor plan. Of course, law enforcement will be allowed to carry. There are a lot of Mormon cops, so there may be some herd immunity there.
 
However, only in Utah is it actually illegal to carry in LDS churches. New Mexico churches must be posted in order to ban concealed carry.
 
Arizona 
'No guns' signs do not have the force of law. If you carry past a 'no guns' sign on private property, you may be asked to leave or disarm. Failure to comply would be trespassing.
 
Parking lot protection 12-781
A property owner, tenant, public or private employer or business entity cannot make rules or policies that prohibits a person from lawfully transporting or storing a firearm:
  • In the person's locked vehicle or in a locked compartment on the person's motorcycle.; and
  • The firearm is not visible from the outside of the motor vehicle or motorcycle.
Any policy or rule that is established or maintained or the attempted enforcement  is null and void and does not have legal force or effect.
 
This does not apply if there is alternative parking in a location reasonably proximate to the primary parking area is provided.
 
Colorado 
'No guns' signs do not have the force of law. If you carry past a 'no guns' sign on private property, you may be asked to leave or disarm. Failure to comply would be trespassing.
 
Idaho
 'No guns' signs do not have the force of law. If you carry past a 'no guns' sign on private property, you may be asked to leave or disarm. Failure to comply would be trespassing.
 
 
Montana 
'No guns' signs do not have the force of law. If you carry past a 'no guns' sign on private property, you may be asked to leave or disarm. Failure to comply would be trespassing.
 
 
New Mexico 
There is no separate church law, however, 'no guns' signs on private property have the force of law for concealed carry only (not like anyone will be carrying concealed to church). Concealed handguns are prohibited on private property when 'no guns' signs are posted or by verbally notifying persons upon entering the property, 10.8.2.16F and 10.8.2.27 NMAC. Signs must be posted according to the standards of the trespassing statute (30-14-6).
 
Nevada 
'No guns' signs do not have the force of law. If you carry past a 'no guns' sign on private property, you may be asked to leave or disarm. Failure to comply would be trespassing.
 
Utah 
Churches (and houses of worship) may choose to prohibit firearms (76-10-530). The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints prohibits firearms on all its property. Per the BCI page listing notices, only the LDS church and one other church legally bans firearms.  
 
Carry in LDS churches and temples is illegal. I would recommend not carrying at all in any LDS owned building. Specifically, it is illegal to transport a firearm into a house of worship or enter or remain a house of worship. The law does not prohibit firearms in vehicles.

 
Washington 
‘No guns’ signs do not have the force of law. Private property owners can choose to prohibit firearms and exclude carriers. Failure to leave or disarm when requested would be simple trespassing.
 
Wyoming 
The “place of worship” section of 6-8-104 was repealed by HB 141 in 2018. Carry is not prohibited by law in churches.
 
‘No guns’ signs do not have the force of law. Private property owners can choose to prohibit firearms and exclude carriers. Failure to leave or disarm when requested would be simple trespassing.

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